Today’s episode is the final in Season One of After Order, a podcast series from Alameda in collaboration with Macrodose, — host James Meadway is joined by Juliano Fiori to reflect on the central premise of the series so far: that we are not living through an “interregnum”, but through a period of sustained disorder.

It was recorded as a live show in collaboration with the Alameda Institute at the Art House in Bethnal Green, East London. The conversation is hosted by Juliano Fiori (Alameda), featuring James Meadway (Macrodose), Clara Mattei (University of Tulsa), and Aditya Chakrabortty (The Guardian). Together they explore the idea that we are no longer living between stable political and economic systems, but through an era defined by overlapping and ongoing crises. From economic turbulence to geopolitical fragmentation, many of the frameworks that once made sense of the world are breaking down. The discussion asked what might replace them – and how we rethink political economy for a world shaped by uncertainty, conflict, and rapid technological change. Across the evening, the panel reflected on what these shifts mean for power, politics, and the possibilities for building a different future.

Drawing on his own work, Juliano argues that what we came to understand as “order” was inseparable from the material foundations of US hegemony after the Second World War — first through industrial expansion, and then through control over global trade and finance.

The conversation explores how the decline of that system is reshaping global politics, and why assumptions that a new order will naturally emerge may underestimate the depth of the current rupture.

From the waning dominance of the dollar to escalating geopolitical tensions, the episode asks what forms of power might define the coming period: the continued rise of China, competing regional blocs, or a world marked by dominance without hegemony.

Which raises a broader question: if the material basis of what we once called “order” is breaking down, what comes next?

You can listen on Spotify or watch on YouTube.